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    Post by nGP|FooTMeN. Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:16 am

    We can do pretty much any night from 8-10 PM EST.
    Preferably not SAT.
    Weekdays would be good to get it out of the way for thanksgiving and stuff.
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    Post by nGP|FooTMeN. Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:34 am

    Friday now last day for scheduling and still no reply. Not cool bro. When can you play this weekend?
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    Post by rangirlxD Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:35 pm

    Sorry didnt know the pairings were posted already, could have swarn i just checked them last night.

    9-12 EST Friday-Sunday works for us, most of us are west coast, before today wouldnt have worked anyway. rangirlxd.896 on battlenet to arrange an exact time
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    Post by nGP|FooTMeN. Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:38 pm

    Saturday 9 pm good for us. Plz confirm if this is alright with you.
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    Post by rangirlxD Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:10 pm

    sat 9pm est confirm
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    Post by nGP|FooTMeN. Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:15 am

    BTW could you guys add me on sc2 for the war: lepep2000@hotmail.com
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    Post by rangirlxD Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:36 pm

    Apologize if this is posted in the wrong location but I cant see anywhere else that seems fit.

    Would like to report a very inappropriate match with LaG. During the third game I was getting spammed most of the match by a player on the opposing team, and was accused of hacking/cheating by "nGP_FooTMeN" a supposed admin of the site and the only admin present during the game. Their defense was that they were "provoked" and that we started bad manner before they did. Not only do I believe this is false, but never once did me or any member of our team do anything to interfere with the match such as pm spamming during game. If this is the kind of conduct allowed in your league and accepted by your admins, I would like you to remove all information of our team and our players from your site and remove us from the league. I don't know what happened in observer chat or anything during the match, all I know is that i was being harassed during game and accused by admins of cheating with no proof whatsoever. If this dishonorable bad mannered admin and team remain in your league, we will be sure to do our best to spread the nonprofessional of your site and league on TL and other community sites. Thank you and good luck with all future matches and I hope the league continues running successfully

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    btw nice cheats
    you cheat and still lose
    i got all the replays
    admin can tell u started
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    Post by rsm Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:51 pm

    I take it that means were not still on for dinner later this evening then?
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    Post by nGP|FooTMeN. Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:53 pm

    Nice fictional story brah. Btw losing meant your out of the league so you would get removed regardless. GGs next time manner up.
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    Post by nGP|EcstatiC Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:07 pm

    okay i understand theres been a bit of controversy, and im working on getting to the bottom of it. so far ive watched the two games between reset and rangirlxd, and the bm appears to have started from rangirlxd, although it was escalated by both sides.


    UNFORTUNATELY, sc2 replays dont save and replay obs chat, but Footmen pointed out to me that xD was streaming all the matches, and that all the vods of the war, including all the obs chat could be saved on whatever stream you used.

    I am requesting access to these vods, so as to thoroughly review the case.
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    Post by nGP|EcstatiC Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:46 am

    okay update, ive found a program that can extract obs chat from the games. heres the start of bm in reset v rangirlxd game 1:

    00:00:04 - HuK to ALL: no
    00:00:06 - HuK to ALL: tca next
    00:00:08 - HuK to ALL: then 2v2

    00:00:15 - PLZLEAVEDUCK to ALL: u sure
    00:00:16 - HuK to ALL: i dont want to 2v2
    00:00:18 - HuK to ALL: fuckinng morons
    00:00:19 - HuK to ALL: jesus

    then it escalates from there. im calling this one as xD starting it.


    here is the obs chat from game 2 of the same series:


    00:00:38 - HuK to ALL: i fuck peoples mom
    00:00:40 - HuK to ALL: who play wc3
    00:00:41 - HuK to ALL: LOL
    00:00:49 - squeav to ALL: lol i go hp potion on their beastmaster
    00:00:51 - squeav to ALL: if you know what i mean
    00:00:56 - HuK to ALL: anyway gonna go roll a straight ace pair
    00:00:58 - HuK to ALL: brb
    00:01:01 - HuK to ALL: making 150k
    00:01:30 - HuK to ALL: hey
    00:01:35 - HuK to ALL: i just made 150k
    00:01:36 - LaGTTJack to ALL: why cant you guys be as mannered as this t?
    00:01:36 - HuK to ALL: sup
    00:01:47 - HuK to ALL: get fucked
    00:01:48 - HuK to ALL: lol
    00:01:58 - squeav to ALL: why do you guys have to talk as if wc3 mattered
    00:01:59 - squeav to ALL: lol
    00:02:07 - PLZLEAVEDUCK to ALL: b
    00:02:07 - LaGTTFooTMeN to ALL: why u gotta talk like ur good?
    00:02:09 - HuK to ALL: okay i have a question for the FaG team
    00:02:09 - Urinedanger to ALL: or as if your lives have mattered
    00:02:10 - squeav to ALL: that game was the biggest joke of an esport ever
    00:02:11 - HuK to ALL: LaG*
    00:02:11 - LaGTTFooTMeN to ALL: get owned much?
    00:02:12 - squeav to ALL: like


    once again its quite clear that xD instigated the bad manner. these are the only two replays that have been submitted to me, and i will try to get the other 4.
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    Post by LaG.TT.ReseT Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:45 am

    All four of them look like that. They always initiated the bad manner, especially HuK. Oh, wells. Good games and good luck next season xD.
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    Post by nGP|FooTMeN. Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:12 am

    LOL No reply from xD? Didnt think so. Ill give you the other 4 replays. Pretty much went the same way. Bad mannered liars down!
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    Post by stratYkEnTRoPy Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:47 am

    I obs one game as a nuetral observer. It pretty much was HuK bad mannering the whole time, and LaG responding back. HuK was pretty much non-stop BM the whole time.
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    Post by nGP|EcstatiC Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:45 pm

    aight so i got the other 4 games. plzleaveducks game didnt have any bm that i could see, but here it is from jarrah v reflected. btw im counting any blatant wc3 bashing as bm by xD against LaG since duck and reset were both highly competitive players, and LaG was a very prominent NA WC3 team.

    game 1:
    00:00:52 - RaNGirLxD to ALL: steppes good zerg map

    00:00:56 - PLZLEAVEDUCK to ALL: lol

    00:01:02 - LaGTTJack to ALL: ....
    00:01:06 - RaNGirLxD to ALL: close rush distance

    00:01:11 - squeav to ALL: ye
    00:01:14 - Repsycho to ALL: Artosis disagrees
    00:01:15 - Urinedanger to ALL: steppes + delta quadrant best zerg maps bc easy 6pool
    00:01:15 - squeav to ALL: good for not making drones
    00:01:15 - LaGTTJack to ALL: 2 barracks marine
    00:01:15 - PLZLEAVEDUCK to ALL: u would make an ok troll
    00:01:18 - LaGTTJack to ALL: imba on this map
    00:01:18 - squeav to ALL: ud be good here duck
    00:01:20 - LaGTTJack to ALL: artosis
    00:01:22 - LaGTTJack to ALL: is a retard....

    00:01:30 - freSh to ALL: lol
    00:01:32 - squeav to ALL: how many gsls have you been in?
    00:01:32 - squeav to ALL: lol
    00:01:32 - freSh to ALL: he had more drones than you
    00:01:33 - PLZLEAVEDUCK to ALL: i am good on steppes
    00:01:34 - freSh to ALL: the whole game
    00:01:37 - Repsycho to ALL: he says its protoss favours

    00:01:49 - LaGTTJack to ALL: "wc3 takes no skill as far as im concerned" artosis
    00:01:53 - squeav to ALL: well it doesnt
    00:01:57 - Urinedanger to ALL: it doesnt take skill

    00:01:58 - LaGTTFooTMeN to ALL: LOL
    00:02:00 - freSh to ALL: lol
    00:02:00 - LaGTTJack to ALL: LOL
    00:02:04 - PLZLEAVEDUCK to ALL: wc3>sc2 is terms of skill
    00:02:04 - Urinedanger to ALL: wc3 is like checkers to chess
    00:02:07 - ReseT to ALL: LOL
    00:02:08 - ReseT to ALL: LOL
    00:02:10 - squeav to ALL: the only people who played war 3 are people who couldnt play bw
    00:02:11 - LaGTTFooTMeN to ALL: LOL
    00:02:11 - squeav to ALL: aka
    00:02:12 - squeav to ALL: scrubs
    00:02:12 - LaGTTJack to ALL: hahahahaha
    00:02:13 - freSh to ALL: dudes dont know anything
    00:02:13 - Urinedanger to ALL: i can play chekcers with my grandma
    00:02:13 - squeav to ALL: and you guys
    00:02:14 - Repsycho to ALL: wow>wc3
    00:02:15 - squeav to ALL: apparently
    00:02:15 - RaNGirLxD to ALL: yo
    00:02:17 - RaNGirLxD to ALL: shut the fuck up
    00:02:21 - RaNGirLxD to ALL: trying to watch the game i love

    00:02:22 - ReseT to ALL: SQUEAV HOMEBOY u lost to a wc3 player
    00:02:23 - ReseT to ALL: go take a nap
    00:02:27 - freSh to ALL: lol
    00:02:28 - LaGTTFooTMeN to ALL: thats why wc3 players are owning BW players on sc2
    00:02:28 - squeav to ALL: ur name is reset
    00:02:29 - squeav to ALL: ur a tool
    00:02:30 - squeav to ALL: lol


    in this case it seems pretty obvious that xD started it once again, although it wasnt necessarily bm right at the start, just jokin around, but then xD escalated it themselves, with LaG simply saying 'lol' for the most part.


    game 2:
    00:00:12 - squeav to ALL: flash could start playing wc3 tommorrow and be better than moon
    00:00:16 - squeav to ALL: roflwaffle

    00:00:22 - freSh to ALL: lol
    00:00:22 - HuK to ALL: LaG
    00:00:23 - HuK to ALL: more like
    00:00:25 - HuK to ALL: FaGs


    once again this shows xD instigating bad manner immediately at the start of the game, with some pretty blatant flaming.


    i would also like to point out that the screenshot provided by rangirlxd, although it is evidence against LaG, it was taken at the very end of the last map of the clanwar, long after the bm started, and when it was clear that despite xd's claims that wc3 players have no skill, LaG was going to shut out xD 6 maps to 0.


    it was also suggested to me that rangirlxd was hacking, but upon reviewing his two games i did not find any evidence to suggest that he was in fact hacking. he found the proxy dt build with his reaper pretty quickly, but on Metalopolis he did a similar pattern of scouting everywhere with his reaper when there was nothing to be found. he then also had an scv in resets base, and scouted the second attempt at going dts, and so shouldve known to switch his tech to ravens.


    im offically ruling in favour of LaG. to xD, if you wish to participate next year, i would suggest that your team learns that this is in fact leagues and not battle.net, and flaming/bm is not tolerated here. just yesterday for example, an opposing manager made a decision which thoroughly pissed me off, a decision nearly identical to the one that footmen made in his capacity as a manager, not an admin, to deny huk from playig 1v1, but i had to say to him that i understood and that i had no hard feelings and i had to make sure the rest of my team did not bm, although a few players were inclined to. Such is the leaguing life, and it takes some getting used to if you transition directly from bnet, and particularly when the clan war goes one series at a time for up to 15 maps, teams are prone to begin flaming one another,. no penalties or bans from future seasons will be laid against xD, although if a similar situation occurs during the regular season it would mean a great deal of PPs for the instigating team.


    ill leave the thread open for a final comment from each side, but i dont want any more flaming in here.
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    Post by LaG.TT.ReseT Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:29 pm

    I just wanna thank the admin, you Ecstatic for taking the time to get all these chats from the replays and review them. It shows your dedication towards this league and I'm looking forward in competing in the nGp. Again, good luck to xD.
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    Post by rsm Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:02 pm

    Don't delete my non troll posts please, thank you.

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